Indiana Jones, like Harrison Ford, doesn't like to take credit or blame. They have figured out new things in safety so myself and the stuntman can do more. It took the three of us, George [Lucas], Steven [Spielberg] and me to commit to course and none of us was fully satisfied with what was produced and then we were all doing different things.'He shrugs, as if there was no tension in that disagreement, as if it's perfectly normal to reprise a role after two decades.
His staring makes me feel the silence with the same question, slightly different. Does he feel different about doing all the intense physical stuff? This guy is an extraordinary character with an active imagination that's just involved in a chain of events where some elements twist into something else...' He seems to like the stress, the haplessness. There's not a lot of CGI, it's mostly done with real physicality, real sets, some things put to scale.'You ride motorbikes anyway, don't you? Why, I ask, since he so obviously loves his Indiana Jones persona, and making these movies, did it take so long? 'We started talking about it 15 years ago and over that period of time three scripts have been produced.
Nothing different.' He's suspicious of everything already. And here he is, about to reprise his most famous hero, indefatigable archaeologist Indiana Jones, the role that first moved him to the super league of actors in 1981.
After working at Bullocks he became a carpenter, a good carpenter who, like the hero of a Hollywood fairy tale, was rediscovered as an actor when he was cabinet-making for George Lucas.
Extremely driven at all times, even if he's not sure where he's going.
His first marriage was perhaps a casualty of this drive, or perhaps he was just too young.
Combative as an interviewee, defensive as a person, you read that he is pernickety, brusque, that he challenges every question. Bringing all the players back together was obviously a big deal, but he seems resolved not to be ruffled by that or explain why they couldn't agree.
It has been said that it's his ordinariness that is so winning.
He put him first in American Graffiti and then Star Wars, and that was the start of the accidental hero trajectory, the one that fits in so well on screen and so uncomfortably off.